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I make music
« on: August 04, 2017, 10:51:55 am »
If you like electronic music, check out my channel: https://soundcloud.com/saidez-official
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Re: I make music
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 10:22:55 am »
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Re: I make music
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 03:21:57 am »
Harsh, but maybe useful comments:

Except for Metal, Hard-Rock and hip-hop, I'm open to any musical genre.

I don't know your intentions, but if you are serious about what you are doing and it's not just a hobby:

1- Consider that Electronic Music has a long tradition that goes back to the experimental music of people like Edgard Varèse, John Cage, Iannis Xenakis, Karlheinz Stockhausen, etc... you can add Daphne Oram and Delia Derbyshire to that small list. 

2- Consider that even the most mainstream Electronic bands never abandoned this experimental path and a deep dialogue with the other arts... the futurism of Kraftwerk, the neoism of the KLF, the obvious references to sci-fi literature of Tubeaway Army.

3- Consider that INNOVATION and EXPERIMENTATION have always been the keys, even for mainstream bands (I say "mainstream" because I get that you are not trying to play like Hanatarash or Massonna).

4- Consider that EDM was preceded by the electronic twist that some Industrial bands created and became known as "Electronic Body Music" or EBM (Cabaret Voltaire, the last albums of S.P.K., DAF, Die Krupps, Laibach, etc... or Psychic TV during their Acid House phase, which has a lot to do with the origins of the modern "raves")... that was the ground in which other bands with a different style emerged, but had a punk & post-punk background (i.e, New Order).

5-Investigate the history of some early independent labels that shaped the early history of Electronic Music in discos (Factory Records, Industrial Records, etc). 

I've heard your 3 songs... they are predictable, you take no risks, there is nothing "different" there... nothing makes them stand apart from 1,000,000 similar songs. So... you CAN be an artist, even if you choose a mainstream genre and without the need of going experimental in "weird ways".
BUT if you seriously want to be an artist, don't feel afraid of doing something different... you can "play" with the genre you have chosen and find your own way of doing something that makes you different. It's not even a matter of being a virtuoso, sometimes it is simply a matter of taking a risk instead of trying to fit in... or doing the same thing that some other 10,000 persons are doing.

But that's my opinion.





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Re: I make music
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 10:20:57 am »
Harsh, but maybe useful comments:

Except for Metal, Hard-Rock and hip-hop, I'm open to any musical genre.

I don't know your intentions, but if you are serious about what you are doing and it's not just a hobby:

1- Consider that Electronic Music has a long tradition that goes back to the experimental music of people like Edgard Varèse, John Cage, Iannis Xenakis, Karlheinz Stockhausen, etc... you can add Daphne Oram and Delia Derbyshire to that small list. 

2- Consider that even the most mainstream Electronic bands never abandoned this experimental path and a deep dialogue with the other arts... the futurism of Kraftwerk, the neoism of the KLF, the obvious references to sci-fi literature of Tubeaway Army.

3- Consider that INNOVATION and EXPERIMENTATION have always been the keys, even for mainstream bands (I say "mainstream" because I get that you are not trying to play like Hanatarash or Massonna).

4- Consider that EDM was preceded by the electronic twist that some Industrial bands created and became known as "Electronic Body Music" or EBM (Cabaret Voltaire, the last albums of S.P.K., DAF, Die Krupps, Laibach, etc... or Psychic TV during their Acid House phase, which has a lot to do with the origins of the modern "raves")... that was the ground in which other bands with a different style emerged, but had a punk & post-punk background (i.e, New Order).

5-Investigate the history of some early independent labels that shaped the early history of Electronic Music in discos (Factory Records, Industrial Records, etc). 

I've heard your 3 songs... they are predictable, you take no risks, there is nothing "different" there... nothing makes them stand apart from 1,000,000 similar songs. So... you CAN be an artist, even if you choose a mainstream genre and without the need of going experimental in "weird ways".
BUT if you seriously want to be an artist, don't feel afraid of doing something different... you can "play" with the genre you have chosen and find your own way of doing something that makes you different. It's not even a matter of being a virtuoso, sometimes it is simply a matter of taking a risk instead of trying to fit in... or doing the same thing that some other 10,000 persons are doing.

But that's my opinion.
Next week my dad is buying me Logic Pro X, and then I'll get to play serious.
My inspiration(I probably already said it several times) is deadmau5. Listen to him. The songs I made are all I could do with the demo versions of FL Studio and GarageBand within an hour.
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Re: I make music
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 02:11:27 pm »
O.K...
That's interesting.

Once you have your own computer, you can check other options. I mean the software. GarageBand is simply a rudimentary tool, designed to be "user friendly", but very limited.

You know, it's like the Windows Movie Maker... I know a lot of persons made youtube videos with that software, but I don't know any person who works editing videos who even considered using WMM.

If I were you, I would explore other options when it comes to software.






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Re: I make music
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2017, 10:18:05 am »
O.K...
That's interesting.

Once you have your own computer, you can check other options. I mean the software. GarageBand is simply a rudimentary tool, designed to be "user friendly", but very limited.

You know, it's like the Windows Movie Maker... I know a lot of persons made youtube videos with that software, but I don't know any person who works editing videos who even considered using WMM.

If I were you, I would explore other options when it comes to software.
I might explore other software, but I'd just be able to use the demo versions of them because my dad will only buy me either that one software or a basic laptop.
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Re: I make music
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 10:55:35 am »
The basic laptop can't handle excessive and complicated software, it's like a mini Chromebook. I'm sticking with Logic Pro X, GarageBand, FL Studio demo, and whatever I can experiment with on my free time.
I tried experimenting with minimal progressive house, it's probably too repetitive but I, personally, like it. It's the kind of music that I hope deadmau5 keeps making.
https://soundcloud.com/saidez-official/i-call-it-soccer
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Re: I make music
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 03:14:01 pm »
The basic laptop can't handle excessive and complicated software, it's like a mini Chromebook. I'm sticking with Logic Pro X, GarageBand, FL Studio demo, and whatever I can experiment with on my free time.
I tried experimenting with minimal progressive house, it's probably too repetitive but I, personally, like it. It's the kind of music that I hope deadmau5 keeps making.
https://soundcloud.com/saidez-official/i-call-it-soccer
(I've gotten into the habit of using clipart to the point that I wish VectorToons sponsored me)

For sure it can't.
Then again, I assumed you were older than you are.

Most people who works with art & technology (music, movies, live digital art, etc) need a somehow advanced computer... and a proper software. 
Other than that, the sound editing softwares always follow the same logic, so what you learn now will be useful in the future.

I didn't know deadmau5, but I checked the equipment he uses:



Then again, it would be crazy for a teen to have ALL that equipment. It only makes sense when music (or electronic music) is your full time job.
And having music as a full time job is not easy these days... mostly because  even if you are "famous", you can forget about selling CDs (due to piracy)... so the $$$ come nowadays from playing live, which is not easy either.

Once you are old enough as to have a job, you can choose to invest your money into music or not. Other than that, some piano lessons would help... but I mean for the future.

As for the "repetitive" issue... most of the "great classics" of electronic music are based on repetition, some of them are repetitive in a crazy way. I adore the band Suicide, but there tunes are probably the most repetitive ones ever created:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woMEExMZXg

... or the tunes of Robert Rental when he was involved with his project "The Normal"... it would be hard to get more "repetitive" than that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5QErPDNcj4






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Re: I make music
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2017, 11:08:29 am »
The basic laptop can't handle excessive and complicated software, it's like a mini Chromebook. I'm sticking with Logic Pro X, GarageBand, FL Studio demo, and whatever I can experiment with on my free time.
I tried experimenting with minimal progressive house, it's probably too repetitive but I, personally, like it. It's the kind of music that I hope deadmau5 keeps making.
https://soundcloud.com/saidez-official/i-call-it-soccer
(I've gotten into the habit of using clipart to the point that I wish VectorToons sponsored me)

For sure it can't.
Then again, I assumed you were older than you are.

Most people who works with art & technology (music, movies, live digital art, etc) need a somehow advanced computer... and a proper software. 
Other than that, the sound editing softwares always follow the same logic, so what you learn now will be useful in the future.

I didn't know deadmau5, but I checked the equipment he uses:



Then again, it would be crazy for a teen to have ALL that equipment. It only makes sense when music (or electronic music) is your full time job.
And having music as a full time job is not easy these days... mostly because  even if you are "famous", you can forget about selling CDs (due to piracy)... so the $$$ come nowadays from playing live, which is not easy either.

Once you are old enough as to have a job, you can choose to invest your money into music or not. Other than that, some piano lessons would help... but I mean for the future.

As for the "repetitive" issue... most of the "great classics" of electronic music are based on repetition, some of them are repetitive in a crazy way. I adore the band Suicide, but there tunes are probably the most repetitive ones ever created:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woMEExMZXg

... or the tunes of Robert Rental when he was involved with his project "The Normal"... it would be hard to get more "repetitive" than that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5QErPDNcj4
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I'm taking a staggering start back into music, soon I'll be in full swing
EDIT: I'm in talks with my school to play my first live concert with them. I might wait until a high school talentshow to seriously play, so maybe just lunchtime DJing is enough.
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Re: I make music
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2018, 10:54:07 pm »
Bump, released Rave EP, it's better than my other songs and is club-aimed. What do you think?
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