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Fjorlief's Library
« on: May 18, 2015, 08:05:12 pm » [00000000]
I haven't seen any topics or anything else on here discussing books. On the chance that perhaps anyone else would like a place to discuss their latest reads, share a discourse on the nature of a certain author's prose, or anything else involving literature, I decided to establish this thread.

I'm a bookworm; I enjoy reading and spend as much of my time doing so as is possible. IRL I have something of a personal library in my room with somewhere between two and three hundred books.

So come on in, take a seat, light up a cigar, and put on your best British accents; this is Fjorlief's Library :dop:
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2015, 08:12:20 pm » [00000000]
Per my reading style, I normally start a few books and kind of juggle them.

Right now, this is my reading list:

-- American Sniper ~ Chris Kyle
-- The Last of the Mohicans ~ James Fenimore Cooper
-- The Brothers Karamazov ~ Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Right now, I'm the farthest in American Sniper. It's a damn good book if you're interested in the military, and Chris Kyle was one helluva guy. I've only sat down in quiet with it a few times, but I'm already a solid 3/4 of the way through it because it's so good and his writing style is so easy to get. I have not seen the movie.

I'm only up to Chapter 2 of the Last of the Mohicans. It's more difficult to understand, but Cooper's imagery and depth have already got me sucked in. When it comes to books like this, I have to read slowly and go back over the information or I'll forget all of it.

The Brothers Karamazov is really good; I'm nearing the end of Book 1 and the plot is beginning to take shape. I put it down for a few days due to work and School, but I can't wait to get back into it and see how the story unfolds...

What are you guys' favorite books?
Any recommendations?
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2015, 08:15:17 pm » [00000000]
Yessss.


I am reading Frank Lloyd Wright's An Autobiography atm, it is hard work, as he is a better architect than writer, but it is entertaining nonetheless.

Like you, I have a decent library of my own (thousands rather than hundreds though), culled from second hand book stores, and various book sales, across the world  :devious:

By far most titles are architecture related, but I also enjoy modern literature, and have a good collection of that too... (Kafka, Dostoevsky, Janet Frame, etc).



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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2015, 08:18:49 pm » [00000000]
Yessss.


I am reading Frank Lloyd Wright's An Autobiography atm, it is hard work, as he is a better architect than writer, but it is entertaining nonetheless.

Like you, I have a decent library of my own (thousands rather than hundreds though), culled from second hand book stores, and various book sales, across the world  :devious:

By far most titles are architecture related, but I also enjoy modern literature, and have a good collection of that too... (Kafka, Dostoevsky, Janet Frame, etc).


You sir, are a shining beacon of scholarly achievement.

Are you yourself an architect?

A friend of mine turned me on to Dostoyevsky one day when he brought in a copy of The Idiot that he was reading. I recently got a copy of The Brother's Karamazov and I've begun to see why he couldn't seem to put it down.
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2015, 08:24:20 pm » [00000000]
You sir, are a shining beacon of scholarly achievement.

Are you yourself an architect?

A friend of mine turned me on to Dostoyevsky one day when he brought in a copy of The Idiot that he was reading. I recently got a copy of The Brother's Karamazov and I've begun to see why he couldn't seem to put it down.

Crime and Punishment is also good, and while you're messing round with Russians, Gogol's Dead Souls is also good. but Andrei Bely's Petersurg is brilliant - one of my all time favourite novels.

No - but I am studying architectural history
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2015, 08:26:32 pm » [00000000]
You sir, are a shining beacon of scholarly achievement.

Are you yourself an architect?

A friend of mine turned me on to Dostoyevsky one day when he brought in a copy of The Idiot that he was reading. I recently got a copy of The Brother's Karamazov and I've begun to see why he couldn't seem to put it down.

Crime and Punishment is also good, and while you're messing round with Russians, as is Gogol's Dead Souls. Andrei Bely's Petersurg is brilliant - one of my all time favourite novels.

No - but I am studying architecture

I will be sure to put them on my list, thank you!

From a scholarly standpoint, what are you enjoying from FLW's Autobiography? Would you recommend it for others?

 
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2015, 08:30:53 pm » [00000000]
From a scholarly standpoint, what are you enjoying from FLW's Autobiography? Would you recommend it for others?

Absolutely not.  ^_^

It is interesting for someone studying 20th century architecture, as it captures well the great modernist vision (or FLW's version of it), and also the personal attitude of the romantic-genius-against-the-world evoked by so many artists and architects of the twentieth century. You can easily see this as the source for the central figure in Rand's Fountainhead.

The writing is atrocious however.
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2015, 08:35:10 pm » [00000000]
Yessss.


I am reading Frank Lloyd Wright's An Autobiography atm, it is hard work, as he is a better architect than writer, but it is entertaining nonetheless.

Like you, I have a decent library of my own (thousands rather than hundreds though), culled from second hand book stores, and various book sales, across the world  :devious:

By far most titles are architecture related, but I also enjoy modern literature, and have a good collection of that too... (Kafka, Dostoevsky, Janet Frame, etc).


You sir, are a shining beacon of scholarly achievement.

Are you yourself an architect?

A friend of mine turned me on to Dostoyevsky one day when he brought in a copy of The Idiot that he was reading. I recently got a copy of The Brother's Karamazov and I've begun to see why he couldn't seem to put it down.

I am part of the "several thousands" club too.

A book I have to suggest if you like reading and you are also reading about the history of architecture would be: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnerotomachia_Poliphili

A romantic/erotic novel written in 1499...  the plot is mostly an excuse to talk about the Symbolism of architecture in a very surreal way.

A Renaissance classic filled with eroticism, architecture, occult ideas... one of the strangest and most fascinating books ever written.





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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2015, 08:46:31 pm » [00000000]
I am part of the "several thousands" club too.

A book I have to suggest if you like reading and you are also reading about the history of architecture would be: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnerotomachia_Poliphili

A romantic/erotic novel written in 1499...  the plot is mostly an excuse to talk about the Symbolism of architecture in a very surreal way.

A Renaissance classic filled with eroticism, architecture, occult ideas... one of the strangest and most fascinating books ever written.

Looks interesting - I'll add it to my reading list (I've just checked, and our Uni holds various copies). Also, the orignal looks way awesome:

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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 12:38:46 am » [00000000]
You're in luck! I'm at home for the next day or two, so I can get a picture of my home library tomorrow night. Most of the shelves are blocked in by stuff from uni, but I easily have over 2000 books and have said goodbye to many, many more.

My book collection tends to be YA and sci-fi/fantasy. I like easy reads. When I have time to read, I've been working through a biography of Elizabeth II and I also got a book recently on psychic self-defense. Interesting concept, and anything will help, I think, especially since oral medication and I are not friends.
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2015, 11:17:40 am » [00000000]
You're in luck! I'm at home for the next day or two, so I can get a picture of my home library tomorrow night. Most of the shelves are blocked in by stuff from uni, but I easily have over 2000 books and have said goodbye to many, many more.

My book collection tends to be YA and sci-fi/fantasy. I like easy reads. When I have time to read, I've been working through a biography of Elizabeth II and I also got a book recently on psychic self-defense. Interesting concept, and anything will help, I think, especially since oral medication and I are not friends.

1st rule of psychic self-defense: Tin Foil hats prevent the aliens from reading our thoughts  :fliphappy:

I have one book of similar topic that talks about the different personality styles of people and how best to deal with them in work environments; it's really good.

I'm very pleased to see the amount of people here that enjoy reading ~ Literati indeed :devious:

@Zoskia: Do you read a lot on the Occult?
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2015, 02:43:50 pm » [00000000]
Great great great  :smug: :smug:
a note: tin foil will increase the intensity of the radio waves and the shape of the tin foil hats will usually allow the radio waves to concentrate better thus having tin foil hats will only make it worse. I suggest building your brain into a computer and writing a good firewall.

As for books:
well, unfortunately, I don't have thousands of books - the budget is not enough - but always have space for Dostoievski, Kafta and Burroughs plus some other writers from my country (and some Stephen King hidden on those shelves as well).
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2015, 03:15:15 pm » [00000000]
You're in luck! I'm at home for the next day or two, so I can get a picture of my home library tomorrow night. Most of the shelves are blocked in by stuff from uni, but I easily have over 2000 books and have said goodbye to many, many more.

My book collection tends to be YA and sci-fi/fantasy. I like easy reads. When I have time to read, I've been working through a biography of Elizabeth II and I also got a book recently on psychic self-defense. Interesting concept, and anything will help, I think, especially since oral medication and I are not friends.

1st rule of psychic self-defense: Tin Foil hats prevent the aliens from reading our thoughts  :fliphappy:

I have one book of similar topic that talks about the different personality styles of people and how best to deal with them in work environments; it's really good.

I'm very pleased to see the amount of people here that enjoy reading ~ Literati indeed :devious:

@Zoskia: Do you read a lot on the Occult?

The "Occult"... an expression I don't really like.

I read a lot on Alchemy & Classical Hermeticism... something that includes classical neo-platonism, Rosicrucianism, Martinism, Gnosticism, Qabalah, classical Astrology... and their historical roots.

My favorites genres are:

-Essays about XX century avant-garde art... specially about the avant-garde movements which are more connected with Hermeticism (Mondrian, Malevich, Kandinsky, Cubism, Surrealism... and then Joseph Beuys, Yves Klein, Piero Manzoni... Robert Smithson... a very long list).
-XX century avant-garde & modernist & experimental literature (Burroughs, Ballard, John Cage, Joyce, etc).
-Old Visionary texts (Hildegard von Bingen, John Dee, Jakob Bohme, Swedenborg, Blake).
-Hermeticism & Alchemy.
-Classical Philosophy & Medieval Neo-Platonic philosophy.
-Renaissance texts... specially neo-platonism in the Renaissance.
-The "outsiders" of French Surrealism (Artaud, Bataille, Klossowski, Daumal, etc).

... but, yes, I have read a LOT of that which is called "Occult", though I have little interest in a lot of things which are also described as "the occult" (i.e, The megalomania of Aleister Crowley, the idiocy of XX Century "Satanism", the "spiritism" of Allan Kardec, the conservative nonsense of Rene Guenon & Julius Evola... I have no interest in that shit at all).

Ha... you may have fun reading a text by me about a piece of work by a friend, though the essay is mostly an excuse to talk about all my interests that go from Classical Gnosticism to XX Century avant-garde art... all mixed in one text:

http://salonarcano.com.ar/contenidos/literatura/english/ensayo/richker/index.htm





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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2015, 04:36:14 pm » [00000000]
You're in luck! I'm at home for the next day or two, so I can get a picture of my home library tomorrow night. Most of the shelves are blocked in by stuff from uni, but I easily have over 2000 books and have said goodbye to many, many more.

My book collection tends to be YA and sci-fi/fantasy. I like easy reads. When I have time to read, I've been working through a biography of Elizabeth II and I also got a book recently on psychic self-defense. Interesting concept, and anything will help, I think, especially since oral medication and I are not friends.

1st rule of psychic self-defense: Tin Foil hats prevent the aliens from reading our thoughts  :fliphappy:

I have one book of similar topic that talks about the different personality styles of people and how best to deal with them in work environments; it's really good.

I'm very pleased to see the amount of people here that enjoy reading ~ Literati indeed :devious:

@Zoskia: Do you read a lot on the Occult?

The "Occult"... an expression I don't really like.

I read a lot on Alchemy & Classical Hermeticism... something that includes classical neo-platonism, Rosicrucianism, Martinism, Gnosticism, Qabalah, classical Astrology... and their historical roots.

My favorites genres are:

-Essays about XX century avant-garde art... specially about the avant-garde movements which are more connected with Hermeticism (Mondrian, Malevich, Kandinsky, Cubism, Surrealism... and then Joseph Beuys, Yves Klein, Piero Manzoni... Robert Smithson... a very long list).
-XX century avant-garde & modernist & experimental literature (Burroughs, Ballard, John Cage, Joyce, etc).
-Old Visionary texts (Hildegard von Bingen, John Dee, Jakob Bohme, Swedenborg, Blake).
-Hermeticism & Alchemy.
-Classical Philosophy & Medieval Neo-Platonic philosophy.
-Renaissance texts... specially neo-platonism in the Renaissance.
-The "outsiders" of French Surrealism (Artaud, Bataille, Klossowski, Daumal, etc).

... but, yes, I have read a LOT of that which is called "Occult", though I have little interest in a lot of things which are also described as "the occult" (i.e, The megalomania of Aleister Crowley, the idiocy of XX Century "Satanism", the "spiritism" of Allan Kardec, the conservative nonsense of Rene Guenon & Julius Evola... I have no interest in that shit at all).

Ha... you may have fun reading a text by me about a piece of work by a friend, though the essay is mostly an excuse to talk about all my interests that go from Classical Gnosticism to XX Century avant-garde art... all mixed in one text:

http://salonarcano.com.ar/contenidos/literatura/english/ensayo/richker/index.htm

Right on. Within the next few months I plan on reading more in that genre. I have a book on Kabbalah that I want to re-read with more detail. Reading the Zohar and understanding it is a project that I've wanted to start for a while; I might begin this summer.

I've only recently found out about Julius Evola; haven't had time to start reading his work but I figure it'd be worth carousing.

I use the term "Occult" very loosely, as it is intended to encompasses a variety of different topics. It's sort of like Metaphysics (as Aristotle described Metaphysics as being those things which we cannot explain through Physics).

Your essay looks very informative and I shall read over it with pleasure  :fliphappy:
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2015, 04:42:43 pm » [00000000]
Great great great  :smug: :smug:
a note: tin foil will increase the intensity of the radio waves and the shape of the tin foil hats will usually allow the radio waves to concentrate better thus having tin foil hats will only make it worse. I suggest building your brain into a computer and writing a good firewall.

As for books:
well, unfortunately, I don't have thousands of books - the budget is not enough - but always have space for Dostoievski, Kafta and Burroughs plus some other writers from my country (and some Stephen King hidden on those shelves as well).
Fantastic to see this topic around here  :nuke:

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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2015, 04:51:43 pm » [00000000]
Personally, I love all of Kafka's work - they're among my favourites. Also, Calvino's If on a winters night a traveller..., Perec's Life, A User's Manual, Petersburg I've already mentioned, and also Infinite Jest is a must for something more contemporary  :awesome:

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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2015, 07:41:19 pm » [00000000]
I should have added this one too, a tale that only true book-lovers could understand  ;).

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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2015, 05:51:32 pm » [00000000]
You're in luck! I'm at home for the next day or two, so I can get a picture of my home library tomorrow night. Most of the shelves are blocked in by stuff from uni, but I easily have over 2000 books and have said goodbye to many, many more.

My book collection tends to be YA and sci-fi/fantasy. I like easy reads. When I have time to read, I've been working through a biography of Elizabeth II and I also got a book recently on psychic self-defense. Interesting concept, and anything will help, I think, especially since oral medication and I are not friends.

1st rule of psychic self-defense: Tin Foil hats prevent the aliens from reading our thoughts  :fliphappy:

I have one book of similar topic that talks about the different personality styles of people and how best to deal with them in work environments; it's really good.

I'm very pleased to see the amount of people here that enjoy reading ~ Literati indeed :devious:

@Zoskia: Do you read a lot on the Occult?

The "Occult"... an expression I don't really like.

I read a lot on Alchemy & Classical Hermeticism... something that includes classical neo-platonism, Rosicrucianism, Martinism, Gnosticism, Qabalah, classical Astrology... and their historical roots.

My favorites genres are:

-Essays about XX century avant-garde art... specially about the avant-garde movements which are more connected with Hermeticism (Mondrian, Malevich, Kandinsky, Cubism, Surrealism... and then Joseph Beuys, Yves Klein, Piero Manzoni... Robert Smithson... a very long list).
-XX century avant-garde & modernist & experimental literature (Burroughs, Ballard, John Cage, Joyce, etc).
-Old Visionary texts (Hildegard von Bingen, John Dee, Jakob Bohme, Swedenborg, Blake).
-Hermeticism & Alchemy.
-Classical Philosophy & Medieval Neo-Platonic philosophy.
-Renaissance texts... specially neo-platonism in the Renaissance.
-The "outsiders" of French Surrealism (Artaud, Bataille, Klossowski, Daumal, etc).

... but, yes, I have read a LOT of that which is called "Occult", though I have little interest in a lot of things which are also described as "the occult" (i.e, The megalomania of Aleister Crowley, the idiocy of XX Century "Satanism", the "spiritism" of Allan Kardec, the conservative nonsense of Rene Guenon & Julius Evola... I have no interest in that shit at all).

Ha... you may have fun reading a text by me about a piece of work by a friend, though the essay is mostly an excuse to talk about all my interests that go from Classical Gnosticism to XX Century avant-garde art... all mixed in one text:

http://salonarcano.com.ar/contenidos/literatura/english/ensayo/richker/index.htm

Right on. Within the next few months I plan on reading more in that genre. I have a book on Kabbalah that I want to re-read with more detail. Reading the Zohar and understanding it is a project that I've wanted to start for a while; I might begin this summer.

I've only recently found out about Julius Evola; haven't had time to start reading his work but I figure it'd be worth carousing.

I use the term "Occult" very loosely, as it is intended to encompasses a variety of different topics. It's sort of like Metaphysics (as Aristotle described Metaphysics as being those things which we cannot explain through Physics).

Your essay looks very informative and I shall read over it with pleasure  :fliphappy:

The Zohar is very easy to understand if you already know a lot about Qabalah... and a nightmare if you don't.

You should begin with other books. Sepher Yetzirah for sure (the SHORT version)***

Dion Fortune's "Mystical Qabalah" ( http://selfdefinition.org/tarot/Dion-Fortune-Mystical-Qabala.pdf ) is also a good "Qabalah for dummies" book. Dion Fortune isn't specially amazing, but her book is a good introduction which assumes that the reader knows nothing.

The Zohar... read it once you have read other books first.

*** Short version = non commented version... the original Sepher Yetzirah. There are several "commented" versions known as "long versions" which simply include comments by the scribes who were copying the text. It is better to use the short version which doesn't include speculations created by other persons.

Knorr von Rosenroth's "Kabbala Denudata" is also a good read before the Zohar... of course, if you are open to interpretations that go beyond the most orthodox exclusively jewish Qabalah.

Don't waste your time with Evola!!! He's just a guy who got high on the drug of Italian Fascism and wanted to bring back Roman Paganism... and a true idiot who only wrote about his own ignorance.

EDIT:

Also, Qabalah is 100% Neo-Platonic... so if you really want to understand it, my best advice: PLOTiNUS.

If you understand the ideas of Plotinus, Qabalah will be by far easier to understand later. It's not that the two of them are simply similar, it's just that Qabalah is not as "ancient" as most people believes... and it was actually born as the Jewish response to neo-platonism and moulded after neo-platonism (even if Jewish neo-platonism existed before -i.e, Philo of Alexandria, the influence of Plotinus is very clear).
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2015, 01:31:12 am » [00000000]
You're in luck! I'm at home for the next day or two, so I can get a picture of my home library tomorrow night. Most of the shelves are blocked in by stuff from uni, but I easily have over 2000 books and have said goodbye to many, many more.

My book collection tends to be YA and sci-fi/fantasy. I like easy reads. When I have time to read, I've been working through a biography of Elizabeth II and I also got a book recently on psychic self-defense. Interesting concept, and anything will help, I think, especially since oral medication and I are not friends.

1st rule of psychic self-defense: Tin Foil hats prevent the aliens from reading our thoughts  :fliphappy:

I have one book of similar topic that talks about the different personality styles of people and how best to deal with them in work environments; it's really good.

I'm very pleased to see the amount of people here that enjoy reading ~ Literati indeed :devious:

@Zoskia: Do you read a lot on the Occult?

The "Occult"... an expression I don't really like.

I read a lot on Alchemy & Classical Hermeticism... something that includes classical neo-platonism, Rosicrucianism, Martinism, Gnosticism, Qabalah, classical Astrology... and their historical roots.

My favorites genres are:

-Essays about XX century avant-garde art... specially about the avant-garde movements which are more connected with Hermeticism (Mondrian, Malevich, Kandinsky, Cubism, Surrealism... and then Joseph Beuys, Yves Klein, Piero Manzoni... Robert Smithson... a very long list).
-XX century avant-garde & modernist & experimental literature (Burroughs, Ballard, John Cage, Joyce, etc).
-Old Visionary texts (Hildegard von Bingen, John Dee, Jakob Bohme, Swedenborg, Blake).
-Hermeticism & Alchemy.
-Classical Philosophy & Medieval Neo-Platonic philosophy.
-Renaissance texts... specially neo-platonism in the Renaissance.
-The "outsiders" of French Surrealism (Artaud, Bataille, Klossowski, Daumal, etc).

... but, yes, I have read a LOT of that which is called "Occult", though I have little interest in a lot of things which are also described as "the occult" (i.e, The megalomania of Aleister Crowley, the idiocy of XX Century "Satanism", the "spiritism" of Allan Kardec, the conservative nonsense of Rene Guenon & Julius Evola... I have no interest in that shit at all).

Ha... you may have fun reading a text by me about a piece of work by a friend, though the essay is mostly an excuse to talk about all my interests that go from Classical Gnosticism to XX Century avant-garde art... all mixed in one text:

http://salonarcano.com.ar/contenidos/literatura/english/ensayo/richker/index.htm

Right on. Within the next few months I plan on reading more in that genre. I have a book on Kabbalah that I want to re-read with more detail. Reading the Zohar and understanding it is a project that I've wanted to start for a while; I might begin this summer.

I've only recently found out about Julius Evola; haven't had time to start reading his work but I figure it'd be worth carousing.

I use the term "Occult" very loosely, as it is intended to encompasses a variety of different topics. It's sort of like Metaphysics (as Aristotle described Metaphysics as being those things which we cannot explain through Physics).

Your essay looks very informative and I shall read over it with pleasure  :fliphappy:

The Zohar is very easy to understand if you already know a lot about Qabalah... and a nightmare if you don't.

You should begin with other books. Sepher Yetzirah for sure (the SHORT version)***

Dion Fortune's "Mystical Qabalah" ( http://selfdefinition.org/tarot/Dion-Fortune-Mystical-Qabala.pdf ) is also a good "Qabalah for dummies" book. Dion Fortune isn't specially amazing, but her book is a good introduction which assumes that the reader knows nothing.

The Zohar... read it once you have read other books first.

*** Short version = non commented version... the original Sepher Yetzirah. There are several "commented" versions known as "long versions" which simply include comments by the scribes who were copying the text. It is better to use the short version which doesn't include speculations created by other persons.

Knorr von Rosenroth's "Kabbala Denudata" is also a good read before the Zohar... of course, if you are open to interpretations that go beyond the most orthodox exclusively jewish Qabalah.

Don't waste your time with Evola!!! He's just a guy who got high on the drug of Italian Fascism and wanted to bring back Roman Paganism... and a true idiot who only wrote about his own ignorance.

EDIT:

Also, Qabalah is 100% Neo-Platonic... so if you really want to understand it, my best advice: PLOTiNUS.

If you understand the ideas of Plotinus, Qabalah will be by far easier to understand later. It's not that the two of them are simply similar, it's just that Qabalah is not as "ancient" as most people believes... and it was actually born as the Jewish response to neo-platonism and moulded after neo-platonism (even if Jewish neo-platonism existed before -i.e, Philo of Alexandria, the influence of Plotinus is very clear).

You're knowledge of these subjects is very impressive, comrade  :salute:
Being that you understand these things so well, I would like to ask if you've read Cicero's peace about the nature of Friendship, "Laelius de Amicitia."
I'm obviously not as well-read on Philosophy as you are, but I found it to be very good.

Anyone else here read these sorts of things? lol keep the discussion going guys  :awesome:
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Re: Fjorlief's Library
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2015, 01:32:24 am » [00000000]
Personally, I love all of Kafka's work - they're among my favourites. Also, Calvino's If on a winters night a traveller..., Perec's Life, A User's Manual, Petersburg I've already mentioned, and also Infinite Jest is a must for something more contemporary  :awesome:


I've read a little bit of the Metamorphosis but totally forgot that I had a copy lol.
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2015, 09:40:20 am » [00000000]
OMG Kafka  :v: :v: I loved The Trial :P Still haven't gotten my hands on something else of his though :\
Currently reading some Mai Jia, anyone ever heard about him?
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2015, 12:26:07 pm » [00000000]
OMG Kafka  :v: :v: I loved The Trial :P Still haven't gotten my hands on something else of his though :\
Currently reading some Mai Jia, anyone ever heard about him?

Never heard of him. What does he write about?
What's your favorite piece of his?
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2015, 01:12:55 pm » [00000000]
Currently reading The Voyage of the Narwhal. Its a historical fiction about arctic exploration post Franklin's disappearance. I love hj
istorical fictIon, adventure/exploration, and arctic reads (which explains why i flocked to New POLAR Order) so this is right in the middle of what i love. Unfortunately not the best written book :(
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2015, 02:54:19 pm » [00000000]
OMG Kafka  :v: :v: I loved The Trial :P Still haven't gotten my hands on something else of his though :\
Currently reading some Mai Jia, anyone ever heard about him?

Never heard of him. What does he write about?
What's your favorite piece of his?
I'm currently reading "Decoded" and I'm enjoying it  :v:
Still don't know much about him so I can't answer you on what he writes about. This book I'm reading, Decoded is about a (strange) man who gets himself on the troubles of cryptography.

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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2015, 01:41:43 pm » [00000000]
You're in luck! I'm at home for the next day or two, so I can get a picture of my home library tomorrow night. Most of the shelves are blocked in by stuff from uni, but I easily have over 2000 books and have said goodbye to many, many more.

My book collection tends to be YA and sci-fi/fantasy. I like easy reads. When I have time to read, I've been working through a biography of Elizabeth II and I also got a book recently on psychic self-defense. Interesting concept, and anything will help, I think, especially since oral medication and I are not friends.

1st rule of psychic self-defense: Tin Foil hats prevent the aliens from reading our thoughts  :fliphappy:

I have one book of similar topic that talks about the different personality styles of people and how best to deal with them in work environments; it's really good.

I'm very pleased to see the amount of people here that enjoy reading ~ Literati indeed :devious:

@Zoskia: Do you read a lot on the Occult?

The "Occult"... an expression I don't really like.

I read a lot on Alchemy & Classical Hermeticism... something that includes classical neo-platonism, Rosicrucianism, Martinism, Gnosticism, Qabalah, classical Astrology... and their historical roots.

My favorites genres are:

-Essays about XX century avant-garde art... specially about the avant-garde movements which are more connected with Hermeticism (Mondrian, Malevich, Kandinsky, Cubism, Surrealism... and then Joseph Beuys, Yves Klein, Piero Manzoni... Robert Smithson... a very long list).
-XX century avant-garde & modernist & experimental literature (Burroughs, Ballard, John Cage, Joyce, etc).
-Old Visionary texts (Hildegard von Bingen, John Dee, Jakob Bohme, Swedenborg, Blake).
-Hermeticism & Alchemy.
-Classical Philosophy & Medieval Neo-Platonic philosophy.
-Renaissance texts... specially neo-platonism in the Renaissance.
-The "outsiders" of French Surrealism (Artaud, Bataille, Klossowski, Daumal, etc).

... but, yes, I have read a LOT of that which is called "Occult", though I have little interest in a lot of things which are also described as "the occult" (i.e, The megalomania of Aleister Crowley, the idiocy of XX Century "Satanism", the "spiritism" of Allan Kardec, the conservative nonsense of Rene Guenon & Julius Evola... I have no interest in that shit at all).

Ha... you may have fun reading a text by me about a piece of work by a friend, though the essay is mostly an excuse to talk about all my interests that go from Classical Gnosticism to XX Century avant-garde art... all mixed in one text:

http://salonarcano.com.ar/contenidos/literatura/english/ensayo/richker/index.htm

Right on. Within the next few months I plan on reading more in that genre. I have a book on Kabbalah that I want to re-read with more detail. Reading the Zohar and understanding it is a project that I've wanted to start for a while; I might begin this summer.

I've only recently found out about Julius Evola; haven't had time to start reading his work but I figure it'd be worth carousing.

I use the term "Occult" very loosely, as it is intended to encompasses a variety of different topics. It's sort of like Metaphysics (as Aristotle described Metaphysics as being those things which we cannot explain through Physics).

Your essay looks very informative and I shall read over it with pleasure  :fliphappy:

The Zohar is very easy to understand if you already know a lot about Qabalah... and a nightmare if you don't.

You should begin with other books. Sepher Yetzirah for sure (the SHORT version)***

Dion Fortune's "Mystical Qabalah" ( http://selfdefinition.org/tarot/Dion-Fortune-Mystical-Qabala.pdf ) is also a good "Qabalah for dummies" book. Dion Fortune isn't specially amazing, but her book is a good introduction which assumes that the reader knows nothing.

The Zohar... read it once you have read other books first.

*** Short version = non commented version... the original Sepher Yetzirah. There are several "commented" versions known as "long versions" which simply include comments by the scribes who were copying the text. It is better to use the short version which doesn't include speculations created by other persons.

Knorr von Rosenroth's "Kabbala Denudata" is also a good read before the Zohar... of course, if you are open to interpretations that go beyond the most orthodox exclusively jewish Qabalah.

Don't waste your time with Evola!!! He's just a guy who got high on the drug of Italian Fascism and wanted to bring back Roman Paganism... and a true idiot who only wrote about his own ignorance.

EDIT:

Also, Qabalah is 100% Neo-Platonic... so if you really want to understand it, my best advice: PLOTiNUS.

If you understand the ideas of Plotinus, Qabalah will be by far easier to understand later. It's not that the two of them are simply similar, it's just that Qabalah is not as "ancient" as most people believes... and it was actually born as the Jewish response to neo-platonism and moulded after neo-platonism (even if Jewish neo-platonism existed before -i.e, Philo of Alexandria, the influence of Plotinus is very clear).

You're knowledge of these subjects is very impressive, comrade  :salute:
Being that you understand these things so well, I would like to ask if you've read Cicero's peace about the nature of Friendship, "Laelius de Amicitia."
I'm obviously not as well-read on Philosophy as you are, but I found it to be very good.

Anyone else here read these sorts of things? lol keep the discussion going guys  :awesome:

I did!
I like Cicero, but he's not really among my favorites. Maybe because I am not truly in love with political theory as a genre.

On the other hand, his book "De Natura Deorum" - About the Nature of the Gods... that's a really good book.





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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2015, 12:30:45 pm » [00000000]
Due to Mihail announcing that he would be leaving, I decided to start reading The Metamorphosis last night. I'm only a chapter in, but it's a very good book.

Also, I'll be finished with American Sniper soon and I'll probably post some sort of review here.

Zoskia; I started looking into the information you shared and downloaded the Mystical Qabalah pdf; I'll definitely start on it this weekend. Thank you for sharing!
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2015, 01:36:59 pm » [00000000]
Anyone into their history or war books should read Chickenhawk by Robert Mason. Re-reading it at the moment and it's one of my favourites!








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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2015, 01:47:24 pm » [00000000]
Anyone into their history or war books should read Chickenhawk by Robert Mason. Re-reading it at the moment and it's one of my favourites!

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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2015, 04:40:25 pm » [00000000]
Due to Mihail announcing that he would be leaving, I decided to start reading The Metamorphosis last night. I'm only a chapter in, but it's a very good book.

Also, I'll be finished with American Sniper soon and I'll probably post some sort of review here.

Zoskia; I started looking into the information you shared and downloaded the Mystical Qabalah pdf; I'll definitely start on it this weekend. Thank you for sharing!

It is a very good introduction to Qabalah.

The Zohar itself isn't specially complicated, it's just that it's not written for beginners... but once you have read a few good books on the subject, it should not be complicated to understand the Zohar.

The book by Rosenroth is another good book to read before the Zohar itself (it is often promoted or published as written or translated by "Samuel L. Macgregor Mathers", though such thing isn't truly accurate... he simply wrote a short prologue, but the publisher decided to exaggerate his involvement with the book because he -Mathers- was somehow famous among the Hermeticists of the late XIX century).

Another interesting author is, for sure, Gershom Scholem... he has a very "Jewish view" on Qabalah (as opposed to Fortune or Rosenroth, who have an Hermetic view), though there are not many versions of the Qabalah, just different interpretations of its limits. So Scholem is sometimes a bit closed-minded, but he's also a very good scholar on the subject.

Other than that, avoid the "Berg family"... Michael Berg, Karen Berg, Philip Berg, etc... the people behind the "Kabbalah Center"... also known as the ones who teach "Kabbalah" to Madonna, Britney Spears and a few other celebrities. What they teach can't really be described as Kabbalah, it's just a commercial idiocy that is more related to selling "good luck talismans" than anything else. It is truly pure nonsense. The "Kabbalah Center" is to Qabalah what Scientology is to Religion... a joke, and an expensive one!





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